Welcome once more to the final part in this series for now. Warning up front: This article will not contain (much) new information, but will serve, as the title implies, as a conclusion on the previous parts I-IV, summarizing the findings, and perhaps serving as an easy reference piece. So let’s go over what we covered in the previous parts.
As I have noted on some occasions, I am in the process of writing a series of articles on battle mechanics, buffs and debuffs, diminishing returns (DR), and gear choices. Although most of the topics have been touched upon in other articles, sometimes partially, questions about how buffs, debuffs and DR work are still coming in almost daily. So to give you some idea of what the articles are gonna be about, here is a small preview:
In this article I will start off with the most basic maths and theory behind combat mechanics, specifically the basic battle formula, dealing with the relation between life and attack, buffs and debuffs.
In the second article we are gonna go further and look a little bit into how the different buffs interact, multiplicative versus additive buffs, and how they effect our gear choices.
In the third article we will look at the common misconception that you need to take into account your opponent’s gear, and see why this is wrong. This will in the end give us the formulas needed to see how your gear scores.
With the basic formula(s) established in the previous articles, we can look into diminishing returns, what exactly it is and how it impacts your gear choices. Math will be provided to make things very clear once and for all, as this topic keeps returning in questions and comments.
This article is still optional at the moment. If written, it will be a conclusion to the previous articles, and sum up how you ultimately chose your gear and calculate its effectiveness.
All in all, the individual articles might not be that long, but neatly separated into individual parts I think this should answer any and all questions concerning gear, buffs and debuffs, and diminishing returns. Stay tuned and I hope you will enjoy them.
Or, you CAN have too much of a good thing….Remember this old post about how each consecutive bonus to a certain process becomes less effective than the previous one? I’ll illustrate shortly with an example. Say you attack some goblins, and your attack value is 100, and you kill 100 goblins.
Now you have 2 items. One increases you attack by 100%, or 100 points, and one reduces the goblins life by 50%, or half their life. Which item do you use? Well, in the first round, it doesn’t matter. Applying the attack item doubles your attack, so you kill twice the amount (200) of Goblins, while the life reduce item also results in double the amount of kills.
We apply the attack item, so attack is now 200 and Goblin life still 1. Again the question, what item do you apply now? Now we see a difference. If we apply the attack item again, our attack becomes 300 and we kill 300 Goblins, not 100%, but 50% more then before. But if we apply the life item now, Goblin life is halved and we kill 400 Goblins, a 100% increase.
And that is diminishing returns for ya: each consecutive added bonus becomes less effective -in this case the attack bonus- , such that other bonuses become more and more effective when used…Now, up until now, this was never an issue with gear because the gear bonuses were not THAT high to make it really noticeable. However with the Replenishing and Necromantic sets, we get introduced to this effect very distinctly, because the bonuses they offer are so incredibly (in my view ridiculously) high.
And that is the reason why a full Replenishing set is LESS EFFECTIVE at defense compared to a mix with Void gear. Individually, the Replenish set is much better. Equip a Hero with Void sword and Replenish Sword alone, and you will see the Replenish sword do better at defending. Test a FULL Replenish set against a FULL Void set, and Replenish wins again. But, because the +life bonus of Replenish is so high, it’s diminishing returns is likewise really high, even so that it makes adding in Void gear work better with its -foe attack bonus. It is exactly like the Goblin example above. The more you use of one, the less effective it becomes and the more worthwhile it becomes to use the other…
And this will make finding the perfect gear set-up more difficult and experimental in nature then it used to be. Please take note of this. When newer, even better sets come out in the future, do NOT mindlessly equip the full set, but mix it with gear with different types of offensive and/or defensive buffs to see whether diminishing returns plays a role (and it will), to come to the best mix of items….Cheers!
This happened to me a week ago: I go to train some troops, and look before queing at the training times: it was something in the order of 10 minutes. I remembered that I needed to put my hero in the training job, so I did. He was level 65 at the time, so, I expected something around a 30% decrease in training time.
To my surprise, when I did the calculations, turned out the decrease was only ~13%! This messed up my mind. I was thinking: “Wait, if the time normally is 100, it should now be 70, 30% less. And if other bonuses are in play, say, another 50% or something, 50-30 is 20 left, a 60% decrease…..i.e. the decrease in training time should ALWAYS be ~30% OR more!“
I’ve never been so wrong in my life….
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